Heading off for San Diego tomorrow...er, today, for the MLA convention and job interviews, through Tuesday. Wish me luck.



And if you happen to be there, and don't have anything better to do between, say, 1:45 and 3:00 p.m. on Dec. 29, you can come hear my paper on Allen Ginsberg--it's part of a panel called "Recorded Sound, Experimental Text." Solana Room, San Diego Marriott. Just don't throw things.

Hurrah! Mary Margaret Sloan speaks up for poor Chicago over on Silliman's blog.

Today's nugget of wisdom from the Poetics list:



We have gay people who come to our tiny rural church, and they're totally accepted. They're no different from masturbators, my pastor has told me privately, and who doesn't masturbate?



Um, thanks, I guess.

Jonathan Mayhew on fetishizing Silliman.

That L.N.P.B. is getting around.

blogs are shops, while the list is the public square.



Oh, come now. I don't pretend to understand what's going on with the current Ron Silliman/Leslie Scalapino fight that's going on over at ye olde Poetics list, but I get a bit frustrated when a disagreement with a blog posting that pops up on the list inevitably turns into an attack on blogging itself. Why? If Silliman had published his take on Scalapino in a magazine--where there's certainly far less opportunity for immediate response and dialogue than in blogland--would his critics attack the printing press?



Robert Corbett's equation of blogs with "shops" (where, presumably, merchandise is carefully controlled and displayed and everyone is smiling) and the Poetics list with the "public square" hardly seems fair. The former image--blog as shop--is a strange extension of someting I also see on the list from time to time: "I don't have a blog; therefore [stated with apparent resentment] I am excluded from the discourse that is going on there."



But a blog doesn't have any overhead (Tympan: coming to you free since March 2003), nor does it (as I can attest) require any serious technical savvy. And it certainly doesn't require any more time to maintain a blog than it does to keep up with and post to the Poetics list (which I've always found exhausting, even in digest form).



In fact, I've found blogging (as I've said before) to be a much more open and welcoming forum than the Poetics list, which I've never felt comfortable posting to; if the Poetics list is a public square, it's one where the loudest speakers are constantly yelling at each other and intimidating anyone else who might want to speak in more measured tones. I wonder if those on the list who attack the exclusiveness of blogs ever stop to notice that those who post on the list with any kind of regularity probably don't number more than a dozen.

On Friday I managed, for the first time, to make it to one of Stephanie’s apartment readings. The setting is absolutely perfect, as if Stephanie had gotten the place just for this purpose: a big kitchen where food was laid out before the reading, and a gorgeous living room with lots of dark wood, couches, chairs, cushions, and even a big window seat, people right up next to each other and Stephanie perching on the arm of a loveseat. The lights were turned out except for a table lamp to the right of and slightly behind the readers, who sat in an armchair, faces in shadow, as if presiding over a round of ghost stories.



I’d seen Mary Burger open for Ron Silliman at 21 Grand over the summer; at the time I’d found it difficult to gain access to her work, but in this more intimate setting I think I got a better grasp of her project. The bulk of her reading was from an ongoing work called Sonny (which I, of course, wrote down in my notebook as "Sunny"), whose genre, Burger told us, was that of the "speculative memoir," a phrase that makes explicit the problem of anyone setting out to write a family history: not even in your own family can you find out everything that happened, whether because of death, failure of memory, or willful withholding. Burger’s solution to this problem is to write a family history as a kind of abstract prose poem, with philosophical statements ("the act is different from the understanding of the act") alternating with biographical vignettes—though the vignettes themselves were still generic enough that they could have been (to paraphrase Stein, a hovering presence throughout the evening) anybody’s life.



The obvious contemporary comparison, of course, is Lyn Hejinian’s My Life, which I was thinking about throughout Burger’s reading. My Life works because of its pitch-perfect balance of the universal and the particular, the lyric and the narrative, but perhaps most of all because of its discovery of an organizing structure that’s an alternative to that of the conventional memoir—the repetition and variation of phrases, the numerological correspondence of sections and years—a homology with a life that doesn’t purport to be a transparent rendering.



Burger’s project is, at some level, more ambitious and difficult, seeking to reconstruct the lives of others as well as her own. Yet I also couldn’t help but feel, at times, that Burger doesn’t fully take advantage of those strategies Hejinian uses to keep My Life compelling. Burger does do some interesting play with narrative, as in one section where she presents overlapping narratives of a man’s life, starting over several times at different points in the life with slight variations, to show us the difficulty of constructing a narrative that represents "the life." But something in Burger’s reading style—taking each sentence as if it were a line of poetry, giving little variation in inflection or voice—prevented the glimpsing of anything like a narrative through-line that could exist in tension with the work’s more speculative aspects. Perhaps this is something that would be more visible on the page; though it may also be the case, as Burger put it, that "what is individual is not visible."



Stephanie offered an intermission but no one took her up on it, so we launched right into the second reading, by Magdalena Zurawski. Zurawski (a recent transplant to the Bay Area) had arrived late, after transportation incidents including a broken windshield wiper and Bay Bridge traffic, but still sporting a brand-new "I Left My Heart in San Francisco" T-shirt.



Zurawski started off in a kind of introverted monotone, but by midway through I was getting chills down my spine and my jaw was somewhere on its way to the floor. While Burger’s touchstone seemed to be poetry, Zurawski was more firmly in the camp of prose, with long, run-on, hypotactic, self-conscious and self-referential sentences that seemed at first to be doing a kind of David Foster Wallace or Dave Eggers thing; the first piece, "The Ham Steak," was set in a college dining hall and dwelled lovingly on the translucent surfaces and methodical eating of the eponymous low-grade meat (including a long exposition, delivered utterly deadpan, of the geometrically and obsessively precise arrangement of ham, peas, and potatoes on the eater’s plate). What at first seemed clever, though, suddenly opened dizzyingly up, beginning with the narrator’s casual but repeated mention of a bruise on her forehead whose story she dared not reveal, for fear of giving away the secrets of her imagination. Zurawski seemed able to do, almost effortlessly what somebody like Eggers is constantly tying himself in knots trying to do: to take some lying-awake-at-night, collegiate existential conundrum and open up the real abyss beneath it, bringing emotion and terror sidling up as if by accident.



The brilliance of pairing Zurawski and Burger was most evident in Zurawski’s second piece, "A Drugstore Comb," which begins from the portentous pronouncements of literary theory: "In literature class I learned that memories live not in people but in things." I was a little worried when I heard this one: any number of overly precious poems and stories present themselves as illustrations (or refutations) of such lit-class platitudes. For Burger, such a statement might be something to be mulled over, permuted, obliquely illustrated. But Zurawski used this thought to plunge into an almost pathological solipsism, driving forward with relentless logic and chillingly repeated motifs. Like Burger, Zurawski was preoccupied with memory; but while Burger meditated on memory’s incompleteness, Zurawski gave us a Borgesian excess of it, reciting at one point a photographic recall of the entire list of ingredients of a sandwich. And—surprisingly, to me, I guess—all this worked because it was deeply psychologized, woven into the character of the young college woman in whose voice lines like this were spoken: "I needed someone to see me so I could see myself."

It’s too bad I don’t fly more often—I’d have a much steadier supply of blog material. Today’s in-flight entertainment included a documentary on the founder of Hershey’s Chocolate.



I’m returning from a fun-filled trip back to the Bay Area, where an hour or two of actual academic business helped justify what was really a poetry vacation. There was a delightful poetry-swap reunion on Wednesday evening, fueled by chicken soup and potato pancakes at David’s Deli and concluding, after a rain-drenched uphill sprint, with poems at Del’s place. An early Christmas: when I appeared at David’s Cassie greeted me with two bags groaning with Australian books and journals and a thick sheaf of photos from the postcard poems reading (featuring things like me, Stephanie, and Del doing what looked like a little doo-wop together at the mike and Catherine making rabbit ears behind the head of any unsuspecting victim she could find).



Stephanie, meanwhile, handed me a mysterious manila envelope labeled "TIM LNPB"; inside was a stack of thin, beautiful, nearly square chapbooks, each with a slightly different, finger-painted image on the front: a circle topped by a pyramid with a protrusion that looked suspiciously like an elongating nose. Stephanie had, in fact, followed through on her promise to preserve Long Nose Pinocchio Bitch for posterity, with my, her, and Kasey’s LNPB poems now prefaced by Jonathan Mayhew’s ode to an alternate species, the Long Nosed Pinocchio Squirrel Bitch.

Blogs in space: Now blogging to you from 39,000 feet, on my way to San Jose. Seemed like a better way to pass the time than watching the four hours of golf commercials that the video screens seem intent on bringing to me.



This will be my first trip back west since moving to Chicago in August. Everyone always assumes that the weather is what I’d miss, but honestly the Chicago chill (admittedly mild thus far) hasn’t bothered me. In fact, I’ve missed the Bay Area much less than I thought I was going to—most likely because I’ve been busy almost nonstop since moving. But also because Chicago has proved to have its own pleasures, old ones and new.



What I did miss about the Bay Area—as evident from my cry-for-help post last week—was a poetry community I’d just started to feel a part of, especially my good ol’ poetry swappers, who I’d come to think of, in a lot of ways, as the primary audience for my work. The couple of weeks before I moved I remember desperately bouncing from one Chicagoland academic website to the next, casting around for a class to take or sit in on—anything that might connect me to a new group of writers.



I guess my post last week must have sounded pretty pathetic, because it brought in an email from Chuck Stebelton, and on Sunday I found myself sitting down in a cozy apartment with a group of poets whose names I’d heard and who I’d even had some email contact with but never met: Jesse Seldess, Kerri Sonnenberg, Ray Bianchi, and Mark Tardi, as well as Chuck.



Driving up to Jesse’s place I was feeling a weird twinge, as if I were somehow, I guess, cheating on my old group. I realize lots of people are in multiple writing/reading groups at once, but when any of the Bay Area poetry swappers would talk about going to their book group or having brunch with a bunch of other poets I’d always feel oddly jealous, like I didn’t want to share—just a sign, I guess, of the weird intimacy of such groups. And even stranger, then, to be the interloper, joining a group already in progress, shifting the dynamic just by showing up.



Fortunately, my fears proved unfounded. This group, it turns out, is just getting off the ground, and everyone was warm and welcoming. The format, too, was different than what I was expecting: rather the bring-a-poem poetry swap, the group had decided to read a critical essay for each meeting and discuss it in depth.



The selection this month was now-NEA chairman Dana Gioia’s "Can Poetry Matter?", which I read years ago when I was working on my undergrad thesis but haven’t had a chance to revisit since. In memory, I’d lumped Gioia in with other "poetry is dead" hand-wringers, usually of a reactionary bent, and useful mostly for his diagnosis of the dullness of the workshop aesthetic. I was surprised to hear the other people in the room meeting Gioia’s claims for poetry’s irrelevance with earnest concern. I suppose I’ve never had much use for the myth of the "general reader"—it usually seems, in the context of contemporary poetry, as a covert way to lobby for an anti-experimental aesthetic. But in hearing the others talk about it I realized it’s also part of a desire for relevance, for an audience, for a sense of connection to the larger communities in which we live.



In fact, as the conversation went on it became clear that what Gioia frames as a national problem—the invisibility of poetry in the mainstream media—has really become, for poetry, a local question. Kerri and Ray both brought up their work in the Chicago schools, teaching poetry to young students, which opened into the question of what the place of poetry in Chicago was, anyway. I remember thinking this, too, at the Notley reading at the U of C, with an audience of about 60 people, compared to the packed auditorium she read to in San Francisco. Is Chicago a town that just doesn’t care about poetry?



By the time I left I’d actually come to feel that the Bay Area was a place where poetry did seem important, relevant to the cultural life of the region. I even developed a theory about this: that it was San Francisco’s very provinciality, the smallness of its other cultural institutions (Chicago’s art museums, opera, and theater—as least at the marquee level—could eat San Francisco’s for lunch) that made it possible for poetry to seem important there. In Chicago, perhaps poetry, always a low-budget endeavor, was being drowned out by the more glamorous (and more corporate-sponsorable) hoopla of blockbuster Impressionist exhibits, Barenboim and Boulez, and Frank Gehry architecture.



There was some grumbling over Ron Silliman’s recent remark (which I hadn’t read) about "poor Chicago," which didn’t even have the poetry scene of a place like Milwaukee (one of the few cities insecure Chicagoans allow themselves to feel superior to). Surely there was no shortage of poetry activity in Chicago; the poets right there in the room were actively running reading series, editing magazines, and teaching. But even in these folks Silliman’s remark touched a nerve; somehow things didn’t seem to quite be coming together. A lot of speculation as to why: Chicago’s non-coastal position? the remoteness of its universities from its cultural life? Chicago as a breeding ground for talent (Second City, Steppenwolf) that then moves elsewhere, erasing all evidence of its embarrassing Midwestern roots? gentrification leading to the culturally deadening rule of the Trixie?



Well, it’s not really true to say that Chicago hasn’t made a name for itself in contemporary poetry; what it’s known as, though, is as the birthplace of the poetry slam. So the real question is whether more experimental, textual modes of poetry have a foothold here. A "scene," I think, happens when an institution (and it can be anything, a reading series, a magazine, or just a regular gathering at someone’s apartment) lines up with a distinctive aesthetic, a set of goals or problems that a certain number of people are working on at the same time in the same place. Maybe that’s starting to happen in Chicago, between Danny’s and the Discrete Series and everything else; I can’t quite tell yet. Maybe we just need an army of bloggers to report on it.

Tuned into the banned-in-Iowa episode of Saturday Night Live just in time to see Al Sharpton blow whatever miniscule chance he had to win the Asian vote in 2004. I mean, come on. Sushi jokes are so 1980s.



Not to mention which the sushi chef in the background made up to look Japanese just reminds you that there are no actual Asians on the SNL cast.

Loop [2]



Sir Smack is

kiss-and-go



at the kill-dare pump.

Pulled as keys



from a scent-full ark

off the kidding Z.



California's

western horn



is the 18th time

pork raised its voice



to halt it, a clung

ton, a lazy L.

I can't get that damn Strokes song out of my head.

Loop [1]



The howling

oak’s parked



along the

ridge and



the cost of

tin sent



rallies

through me.



Cicero

pulls ass—kid



conserves a

story. Keds



in every tree.

Hello Hello,



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The Last Samurai certainly looks like an "orientalist nightmare" (Robin originally thought upon seeing the teasers that Tom Cruise was being cast as a Japanese man, although I'm not sure the truth is a whole lot better)--but I can tell you that since coming home at the beginning of this week my father can talk about nothing else besides going to see the damn thing on opening night. If I weren't already writing a dissertation I'd have another one right there.

Santa, I want a Pinay Barbie for Christmas.

Ha! And you thought I was kidding about that "New Prairie" thing.

Long Nose Pinocchio Bitch lives!



I foresee a merger/sequel: Long Nose Pinocchio Bitch Chokes.



(Was that really in October? Egads. A slight twinge of remembered pain.)

There's been a bit of an exchange on the Poetics list the past couple days about contemporary poetry and academia, which at some point transmuted into a conversation on race and its alleged monopoly over the current study of literature. I'm always a bit surprised when conversations on the list take this kind of turn, as they often do when race comes up--I guess it shouldn't be odd to find that the avant-garde wing of contemporary poetry (which often prides itself on its leftist allegiances) can be just as wedded to the ideal of the poem as aesthetic artifact, untainted by social context, as any other group of American writers. But it always disappoints me a little.



Kirby Olson's original post observed that there are "no jobs teaching contemporary poetry," to which Joel Weishaus correctly replied that, well, there are really no jobs teaching anything. As someone who's on the job market I can confirm that there are very few jobs explicitly advertised in twentieth-century, much less contemporary, poetry, but I think this is less a symptom of the decline of the field of contemporary poetry than another sign of the arcane and erratic state of academic hiring. Medieval literature--a field that encompasses not fifty or so years but several centuries, and which is also frequently said to be in decline--usually has only a handful of job postings per year. This year, unbelievably, there are something like fifty. I doubt that there are significantly fewer jobs in modern and contemporary poetry now than there were a decade ago; in fact, if anything, I see major programs like Penn and Buffalo continually expanding their commitment to it.



But while there may be very few jobs advertised in contemporary poetry, there are a truly astonishing (well, for the English job market) number of jobs being posted in creative writing--a point that Olson alludes to, but which I think is really central to this discussion. It's becoming increasingly likely that in an academic English department, contemporary poetry will be represented on the faculty not by a scholar with a Ph.D. in poetry but by an MFA-holding, widely-published creative writer, who is often called upon to teach introductory poetry classes in addition to teaching writing workshops. (This phenomenon--of poets being assigned to teach intro poetry classes--is prevalent even at a place like Stanford, which has historically had no shortage of faculty in poetry.) Undergraduates are, indeed, flocking to poetry classes, but those classes are most likely to be classes in creative writing--enrollment in such classes is one of the few growth areas for many English departments.



So what we're looking at is not a decline in the number of people teaching contemporary poetry at the college level, but a significant shift in who's doing that teaching--from the Ph.D.-holding scholar to the creative writer. There's no reason to assume that this is a bad thing--that it represents the triumph of the bad old "workshop aesthetic" of the "MFA mainstream"--not least because that aesthetic has changed, as much the kind of work that's coming out of workshop-trained young writers these days has at least a veneer of the experimental. It might very well have a liberating rather than conservative impact. But it might also result in a narrowing of the field, with the craft of poetry as it is done now coming to dominate over broader historical and critical perspectives.

I've come to realize how much the rhythm of my blogging was determined by the structure of my life back in March when I started: having an office to go to where no one could notice how much time I was spending blogging instead of working, good several-hour stretches of time where I could blog for a while and still feel like I had enough time to get some work done, nights when I was able to stay up until 1 or 2 finshing some long entry.



As is probably obvious from my sporadic posting over the past few weeks, I haven't yet figured out that rhythm here. Job market panic mostly means that every minute spent sitting in front of my computer is one of stomach-churning anxiety rather than scholarly contemplation, and it's been hard to hack out a well-defined workspace here at home, where piles of my papers are tottering on either side and there's nowhere to put them.



Mostly, though, it's the lack of a reinforcing real-time community to keep the virtual one churning along--I'm not seeing my poetry-swap buddies on a regular basis, which at the least meant I had to write something once a month. Well--at least a swapper reunion has been planned for my trip back to the Bay Area--maybe that will give the blog a shot in the arm.

It's official: the Tim world tour will make its triumphant return to the Bay Area from Dec. 9 to Dec. 13. Get your tickets now.

The strange experience of stepping outside and not actually knowing what the weather will be like. Twenty-degree temperature swings in the course of five minutes. A beautiful morning into a rainstorm. A miasma of leaves on the ground and brought into the house on big dog feet.

Huzzah! reading reports popping up everywhere: Kasey on Mytili Jagannathan and Rodney Koeneke and Stephanie on Manguso/Davis/Edgar. I'd try to keep up my end, but it looks like the U of C reading series has gone into hibernation until February, which means that I might actually have to leave Hyde Park to hear some more readings. Shudder.

At last, my report on the Notley reading...I know you've all been holding your breath.



So I'm on my way over to the Alice Notley reading last Monday and I get a call from Li Bloom, who I'm supposed to meet up with. Turns out Li's fallen victim to the Chicago highway tangle, literally at a fork in the road and not knowing which way to go. (I had this horrible image of Li sitting in her car in the middle of a highway median, cars whizzing by on either side, horns sounding.) I end up talking her all the way down from the Loop to the South Side, having her make U-turns in the middle of Lake Shore Drive and who knows what else, standing in the middle of 59th St. waving my cup of coffee to flag her down. (Weird moment of standing there talking to each other on cell phones while looking at each other through her car window.)



Even as she was trying to find her way down here, Li was thoughtful enough to ask me for my whole life story and give me part of hers. (Insert "strangeness of meeting someone you only know from their blog and how you know them but don’t really know them" riff here.) She told me it was the first reading she’d been to in a long time—I sympathized, having grown up in the same suburban enclave she now inhabits. But meeting her was just delightful—all energy and enthusiasm and poetry.



Really, though, most of this came afterwards, since by the time we got into the building the reading was about to start. Eirik Steinhoff of the Chicago Review introduced Notley and praised her a number of times for being part of no school and free of dogma, which always makes me a little suspicious—a little like "fair and balanced," if you know what I mean.



But that’s no fault of Notley’s. When she took the podium I was struck by how utterly different the atmosphere of this reading was than the last time I saw her at Lone Mountain in SF—that was a huge auditorium, more or less packed, with a sort of rock-star atmosphere and a who’s-who audience that made me a little queasy. The room here in Chicago was full, too, but that meant 60 people—both more and less intimate. People were there to hear Notley, but not necessarily because they knew her.



Notley’s certainly not a ranter at the mike, but she is, in her own way, a consummate performer. Stepping up to the front, she leaned back and kind of framed the podium with her hands like a director lining up a shot, then told us that explanations of anything would be reserved for her talk the following day; right now, she said, "I’m going to perform."



Listening to her made me think a bit of the low, rich, "thrilling" voice of Daisy Buchanan in Gatsby--but while Daisy’s voice is full of "money," Notley’s seemed more to be verging on tears, as if it were being held up in the lower registers by a suppressed sob. That’s a bit dramatic, but maybe appropriate to the material Notley was reading.



Part of what made me feel a bit like an outsider at the Lone Mountain reading was, in fact, Notley’s material—she read extensively from Disobedience, whose diaristic quality, allusions, and inside jokes seemed to delight those already familiar with her and her work, but it gave me that feeling I get when reading some of the more insiderist work of the New York School—like I wasn’t being invited into the conversation, sparkling and brilliant as it was.



The quality of this reading was utterly different—at one point I leaned over to Li and said that Notley in SF had been more "upbeat," though that wasn’t quite the right word. Her reading in SF was haunted by death—her brother’s, her husband’s—but not obsessed with it; here, it was as if she were down in the grave and trying to dig her way out: "I have come from another form in the ground." She read almost entirely from new work, serious and driven by rage and grief, with titles like "They Are All Dead Today" and "Decomposition"—the last, perhaps, an apt term for a project of writing one’s way out of death.



Perhaps the sense of a project in progress is what gave the reading its feeling of unity. Like Disobedience, the new poems were often animated by dream imagery, particularly that of the "dark woman," both archetype and self-portrait. The dominant tone was less elegiac than unflinchingly and viscerally memorial, the language of a present consciousness wounded by death: "You have left a bloody corpse in my bed…No one in a small town should have a pauper’s grave…I loved someone who died…My mind isn’t safe."



Yet Notley would hardly be Notley if there weren’t some sparkle of wit in the pain—a "funereal repartee," as she put it. The "world drug, the beauty drug" may be an opiate, but it’s an irresistible and even natural one.



And the intrusions of the public world of politics and war—characteristics of Notley’s recent work that have led some to read her as a powerfully political poet—were also in evidence, though less conspicuously than in Disobedience. One poem, "Ballad," which alternated quotes from Dick Cheney with images of elegy and dream, seemed formulaic, with Cheney’s rhetoric too easy a target; more powerful were the moments when public language asserted itself deep within the personal, linked with the stasis of death: "The president comes into every part and stops it."



Afterwards I’m talking with Li and this guy comes up and introduces himself—it’s Chuck Stebelton, who’d emailed me a few weeks back to let me know about a few good Chicago reading series (which were threatening to burgeon, egads, into a "scene"). Pretty soon we’re all talking about blogging and how weird it is to meet people who you’ve only met as blogs and how can we get everybody in Chicago blogging and…well, you get the idea. Watch out for that New Prairie School.

My blogophobia reached such levels that I have not even read anybody else's blog for the past week, because I realized doing so would make me feel even more bad about not having blogged.

And just when I was wondering if Chicago was ever going to open its brawny arms to the blog: I walk into a restaurant this afternoon and see this week's Chicago Reader and there's Bookslut, right there on the front page. There's even a picture.

Sorry. Something like a blog breakdown over the past week--I dunno, every time I thought about posting my cursor would hover over the link to Blogger and then just slink away.



It's just been a tough week. No personal, political, or poetic spins to be put on it.



I still owe you all a report on the Notley reading. I have a notebook full of stuff. Stay tuned.

I'll be there--and it looks like Li will too, so we can meet at last! A veritable blogfest. Oh, and Notley's pretty good too.



*************** ALICE NOTLEY ****************

at the University of Chicago



Monday, November 10, 5:30 p.m. (Classics 10): Poetry reading



Tuesday, November 11, 4:30 p.m. (Wieboldt 408): "My Lines"



A reception will follow the reading on Monday.



********************



Known as one of the most important voices in the second generation of The New York School, Alice Notley is author of more than 20 books of poetry, including The Descent of Alette (1996) and Disobedience (2001), which won the Griffin International Poetry Prize for 2002. She has published an autobiography, Tell Me Again (1982), and works also as a painter and collage artist. In 2001, she received an Academy Award from the American Academy of Arts and Letters and the Shelly Memorial Award from the Poetry Society of America. She lives in Paris, France.

Good Lord. Those of you anywhere near Stanford can hear Billy Collins, Robert Creeley, Eavan Boland, Michael Davidson, and Thom Gunn read all in the space of this next week.



Tomorrow: Thom Gunn, the Lawrence and Nancy Mohr Visiting Poet, will hold a colloquium, Wednesday November 5, at 11am in the Terrace Room, Fourth Floor, Margaret Jacks Hall, Stanford English Department.



Friday and Saturday: Poetry and Politics: Black Mountain and Others, at the Stanford Humanities Center. Robert Creeley, Eavan Boland, and Michael Davidson read Friday at 8 p.m.



And Billy Collins will read on Monday (8 p.m., Cubberley Auditorium) and talk on Tuesday (11 a.m., Terrace Room, English Department). I'll be the guy in the front row wearing the moth-eaten "IMPEACH BILLY" T-shirt.

I missed William Fuller reading up in Winnetka, but when I saw he was reading down here at the University of Chicago I hardly had any excuse. Of course, I always think that 20-minute walk to campus will take about 5, so I left late and spent the whole walk saying to myself, "No poetry reading ever starts on time..."



The reading was on the first floor of Classics, in a longish lecture hall with just enough vintage woodwork to make me remember I wasn't in California anymore. (The equivalent reading space at the Stanford English department has a big plate-glass window with a view of red tile roofs and the foothills behind them. I suppose this is just a sign that I spend too much time during readings staring off into space.) A solid turnout--I'm guessing at least 30 people--though I have no idea how that ranks for Chicago poetry crowds.



I must say that I knew nothing of Fuller's work before the reading, apart from a piece or two I'd looked up online. I'd seen a lot of mentions, locally and on the Poetics list, of his new book, Sadly, enough to pique my curiosity but not enough to really tell me about his work. In short, I was a pretty clean slate.



In a lot of cases, it may be that attending a reading is absolutely the worst way to be introduced to a poet's work. Listen to a tape of Wallace Stevens reading sometime and you'll know what I mean. I guess this is particularly true of experimental writers whose work is dense, textual, very much on the page--there are obviously some who are consummate performers (Bernstein, Silliman) but it often doesn't seem to come naturally. Maybe this is true of Fuller, and on the page I would find his work deeply engaging. From where I was sitting, though, it was difficult to get in.



One of the first things we were told about Fuller is that he's worked for Northern Trust for twenty years. But this wasn't just a "poet day job" thing: it came up repeatedly, as it became evident that Fuller's poetry is very much of the workplace. While that may conjure up the spectres of Philip Levine or Dana Gioia, Fuller's project is a lot closer to that of somebody like Bernstein (and, to a somewhat lesser degree, Silliman): an interest in the discourse and language of the contemporary workplace, particularly in its more extreme forms of jargon. In Bernstein this is often played for laughs or parody, but there's also a cutting sense of the ideology of that language, the way in which it veils, justifies, numbs.



I think Fuller represents the next step in engaging that language--a kind of surrender to, even embrace of, its headlong rush. Beginning a poem called "Profitability Death Spiral," Fuller noted that his co-workers (who are apparently aware of his poetic vocation) will occasionally bring him particularly prime examples of finance jargon. "If you have enough of these sources," Fuller remarked sardonically, "you don't even have to write the poem."



I think anyone who's worked with any kind of linguistic material that seems to be endlessly self-proliferating and mechanized--whether it be computer-generated text, pop media, Google poetry--gets that feeling sometimes, and doesn't quite know how to feel about it. To my mind the most successful poetry of this sort manages somehow to hack out a critical position within or against the discourse it grows out of. Bernstein or Ashbery may occasionally read like a technical manual, but there's a zaniness and verve that both makes it possible to keep moving forward and allows one, possibly, to laugh oneself outside of ideology for a moment.



Seen in this light, Fuller's poetry seemed too, well, earnest, even didactic. In mining business language for poetry, Fuller takes its poetic quality too much for granted. In this sense maybe the apt comparison isn't Charles Bernstein but Susan Howe--more specifically, Howe's faith (following Pound and Olson) that the fragments of the historical record, its language, may yield up some transcendent quality if put under enough pressure. Fuller mixes in a fair amount of Howean historical material, 16th- and 17th-century primarily, but rather than fragmenting it remains discursive, fusing into a single stream of language--an effect heighted by Fuller's headlong reading style, with little space between words and sentences. "Basic objects leap into the sea, which revives them with doctrine."



I can't help but contrast the title of Fuller's Sadly with that of Lyn Hejinian's Happily. In reading, at least, Fuller does seem to use language sadly, carried along on the flow of information, earnestly trying to make sense of it all, but capsized on each successive wave. I don't see Hejinian's happiness, the pleasure of engagement and play, those brief moments of freedom before being carried under again.

Please come to a reading and lecture at the University of Chicago this week by:



*************** William Fuller ****************







Thursday, October 30, 5:30 p.m. (Classics 10): Poetry reading



Friday, October 31, 1:00 p.m. (Classics 10): "Restatement of Trysts"



A reception will follow the reading on Thursday.



********************



Drawing equally on Buddhist sutras and country blues, William Fuller's latest book, Sadly (Flood, 2003) derives compassion from its ironic vision. Quick and sometimes elusive, his poems observe fluctuations in economic markets, the weather, and human consciousness. In the Chicago Tribune, Maureen McClane has described Fuller's "dense, elliptical mediations," writing that his "luminous images…consistently marry the cerebral and the sensual." Fuller lives and works in Chicago.

Two bleary-eyed blogless days filled with job apps. I don't recommend that 4:55 p.m. sprint to the post office when you haven't eaten anything all day, or the frantic run to Office Depot (around the corner, thank god) ten minutes before closing time to rub paper samples looking for the right one to match the stuff you've already got. What was scary was that I was not the only one there rubbing paper--there was another similarly bleary-eyed guy picking up all the paper I'd put down.



Choke poetry seems to have gagged its last. It was a good run. Thanks to all who coughed something up.

Hey bloggers: go academic...



Panel on Weblogs

Popular Culture Association/ American Culture Association Conference

at San Antonio, April 7-10, 2004



This panel seeks papers from bloggers either analyzing some aspect of the culture of blogging or presenting critical and informative personal narratives about blogging. Presenters need not be academics, and graduate students are welcome.



Please email jchaney@iusb.edu a short abstract (one paragraph) and brief biographical note by November 10, 2003.



Joseph R. Chaney, Chair

Computer Culture Area

SW/Texas PCA/ACA



Department of English

Indiana University South Bend

(574) 237-4870

fax: (574) 237-4538

Gary Sullivan answers my question about flarf and Googlism:



There was a brief period on the flarflist when everyone found Googlism and threw in funny searches, like "bad poetry" or "great poetry." The one I remember best, of course, is:



Googlism for: flarf



flarf is come festival in florida

flarf is officially over for this year

flarf is the faery cast

flarf is held at quiet waters park

flarf is over

flarf is come festival in florida flarf is officially over for this year flarf is the faery cast flarf is held at quiet waters park flarf is over

flarf is come festival in florida

flarf is officially over for this year

flarf is come festival in florida flarf is officially over for this year flarf is the faery cast flarf is held at quiet waters park flarf is over posted by

flarf is appealing

flarf is the faery cast

flarf is the oversized fleece/flanal blue striped/plaid shirt jacket thing that jessie stole for me from thrift junction yesterday

flarf is over



... although, the last time I saw it done there were fewer lines.



Mostly, I like to edit Googlisms, when used. So the above would be more like:



flarf is come festival in florida

flarf is officially over for this year

flarf is the faery cast

flarf is held at quiet waters park

flarf is the oversized fleece/flanal blue striped/plaid shirt jacket thing that jessie stole for me from thrift junction yesterday

flarf is over

Which makes me wonder: how do flarfers feel about Googlism? It seems like there's something of the same thing going on there, like a tech-geek version--the results, at least, often don't look that different from my own pale attempts at the genre. Of course, I presume Googlism is the result of some kind of automated process, which flarf flirts with but doesn't completely embrace...I guess.

Both The Wily Filipino and Gabriel Gudding pointed my attention to Googlism on "choke," part of which Gudding was kind enough to send to me:



Googlism for: choke



choke is offered in pressure

choke is on you

choke is the result of 13 years of continuous research and development

choke is on you last aired on

choke is a damn fine novel

choke is no exception

choke is the major

choke is also equipped with a set screw to lock the setting in place and avoid its movement due to vibration

choke is pulled open can be adjusted by bending the "u

choke is about taking the next step

choke is getting a mixed reaction from critics and fans alike

choke is what you might call a man's man

choke is the story of a young man named victor mancini

choke is pretty complete

choke is brilliant and extremely funny

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choke is called a "cylinder bore" and delivers the widest spread

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choke is in open position

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choke is changed often without proper cleaning

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choke is very effective it can also be dangerous

choke is a caucasian male

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choke is up to the challenge of holding that pattern as tight as it should be at 40 yards

choke is in closed position

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choke is to a shotgun

choke is very fast and very powerful

choke is made from 0

choke is very important to maximise your scores at the various disciplins

choke is on the chassis upperside

choke is the degree of constriction at the muzzle end of the barrel

choke is also a definite recommendation to all those not

choke is a fixed one or is it removeable? i use

choke is used

choke is a measure of the opening

choke is held too long

choke is 1k

choke is manufactured by shyam electronics

choke is the latest novel by stuart woods

choke is used when the engine is cold

choke is told from the point of view of a dropout medical student

choke is closed

choke is minimum

choke is like he throttle

choke is one that is often misunderstood

Kasey is with me on this whole "scansion is useless" thing, though Jeffrey Jullich begs to differ.

Mystery Choker Revealed...



I thought Michael Magee's fingerprints were all over this one, but now he's come clean.

From Sean Serrell, who says: "I hope the choke-wagon isn't so full it can't accommodate one more." Hey, there's plenty of room--jump on.



Choke Tubes/Chuck P.’s Choke/Kickin’ JC’s ‘nads



Until recently, everyone thought that by funneling a wad into a smaller stream under pressure, the spread could be concentrated at a distance onto a target. This cut-away illustrates the patterns produced by replacing the old "funnel choke" with a patented wad retarding system which stinks of either conspiracy or revolution, I can't tell which:



Go talk swearwords about God

You all will die, stupid humans.

Bye slut, go talk shit about me.

(Call me a 'psychophatt')



When people ask "What would Jesus not do?" I will have a clever response for them based on something I have done. What would Jesus NOT do? Disgusting Post Modernism, however I must point out that Jesus did in fact assault people. The most common hold is from the front with both the assailant’s hands around your throat. Since the two handed front hold is the most common, it will be the best to learn how to escape. Every man has had a sister, mother, wife or girlfriend that has mentioned "kicking a man where it hurts." The most important thing is to run away once you are free. Never stick around to see if your attacker is going to get up.

Three Chokes from Gary Sullivan



Did You Mean To Search For: Chokes?



(a "B" side for Tim)



SiStAh! WhEaH yOoH bEeN!

hAcVeNt TaLkEd ToOh YoOH InNaH cHoKeSs

LoOoOoNnNNgGgGg TyME!



cowerkers are kewlness...gotsta love them...when i came home

lenlen asked me if i wanted to go dolly's house

so yeah we went there...had chokess ppls...



i hAvE sHoRt HaiR nOw, LiKe uP tO mAh sHoULdErS



plus, since there was chokess amounts of people

the noise level must've been pretty loud



iTs LaYeReD LiKE tHaT

ShOOtS..DiD yOOH EvEr FiNd OUt aBoUt DaT jOb ThInG? ...



HoW yOOH bEeN?





CHOCKINGG (Outtakes)



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Choke Lit USA



Choke lit modern romance fiction

Choke lit search word spy

Choke lit married man

Choke lit dispatched within 24 hours

Choke lit hates me because I’m cute

Choke lit sex-soaked candy-colored indiscreet romp

Choke lit personal trainer hug

Choke lit so you’d like to…

Choke lit read by 579 people

Choke lit stop rubbishing "hairy-legged" female

Choke lit irrepressible (and unavoidable)

Choke lit musi c. mischie f. ar t

Choke lit pink lit?

Choke lit of a fat bride

Choke lit behaving like adults

Choke lit black authors getting in

Choke lit puts her finger on

Choke lit collapse this category

Choke lit between doing your hair and make-up

Choke lit espresso stories

Choke lit fashion and beauty articles and lifestyl…

Choke lit "fragrant literature"

Choke lit deals more with the realities of dating

Choke lit looked down their noses

Choke lit just a lot of froth

Choke lit push-up bra G-string chastity belt

Choke lit aimed at the modern gal

Choke lit traditional romance fiction

[choking moments in Ohio from "rhode island notebook 3.7.03"]

Gabriel Gudding



I-270 N 342 M 12:50 PM EST

sun out Wham! As I bounce over

the Olentangy State Scenic River

356 m fr. BL & Northwest of Columbus

2 Canada Geese traverse hwy

50 ft Above car. They do not honk.

It occurs to me I should have

honked at them

On rt, in bright sun N of Columbus,

375 m fr. BL, I see, in a muddy,

furry oval of hay, a press of

horned Kine in tumid Anoraks

feeding & lazing in sun booms:

I notice in shock they are bison.

Small hawk kites over median,

southward, yawing

STOP TO EAT, GAS, PEE 1:30 exit 151

10.1122 g 390 m = 38.57 mpg very low mpg

1:40 A fish sandwich

at McDonalds, I bite it in parking lot, choke

on the bite of hot cod puck. My sinuses ache

me.



1:52 pm EST back on road

and so Laura Bush picked up her

husband's hawky-pointy flared nostril

nose, smelled it, sniffed hard at it,

cried about it and put it safely

in her bosom brassiere. There in

turn it snuffled in little

fooms her bosom smells

76 east 2:44 pm 450.7 m fr BL.

Long steep downward slope near

Wadsworth OH, never noticed before

Traveling perpendicular to me on

an underpass beneath

the freeway, I spy a large clear white

Ford pickup w/ an immense American flag

on a 6 ft pole flickering Above its

hitch-bulb and I am once again shocked

at the ghastly, kitschy, tacky, tasteless

and disturbingly hick-like & white

non-urban, gun-bearing & ignorant



nationalism, which is. Nationalism is.

490 M 3:20 pm near Mt. Union

College, am very tired.

3:33 PM I sneeze explosively.

And, simultaneously, the loosened nose

of G W Bush sneezes between

Laura Bush's easy breasts w/ a puffing bang

rocketing the wedge of flesh

up the Valley of her cleavage

slopping her firmly under the chin

and slipping back w/ a snotty swash into her

silk and smelly valley.

Meander Reservoir 510 M 3:39 pm

80 e 3:41 pm 513 m I sneeze again

and again the loosened nose of G

W Bush burstles upward slapping

past the lip-gates of Laura Bush's mouth-lips

lodging under her Uvula. She glottal chokes

ejecting the nose, plosive phlegm-noise

follows the nose's arc outward: the nose splats in the

party's heels. A startled pause.

In the social air a bloom

of pallid phlegm unfurls. "For the

first time in my life I have

had to confess I am ashamed of my

country." -- Richard Olney, 1903, re:

Roosevelt's seizing of the Panama Canal

Pennsylvania Welcomes You 527 M

STOP TO PEE 3:53 -- 3:57



In Western Pennsylvania near

Clintonville, A bright but long-

shadowed March afternoon as the Alleghanies

begin, smattering of snows remain in

the woods and the large

meadows/small fields, but in the

median, a shallow-v in cross-section

the tan dead grass slicked-down by snow melt.

Am very achey.

MY FAVORITE ENGINE

[I'm afraid I'm not sure who this is from...contributor, please identify...sorry...]



You let out of it.

I ran it like that

for a spell and it

cleared up.



I never knew

what caused it,

but sometime

later it did it



again and I

choked it.

The whole „if

you‚re Œanti press‚



why publish?‰ argument

immediately started

climbing up the

back of my throat ˆˆ



but I choked it

back down ˆˆ and was

shot in the bathroom,

made me cry.



When I got it

home I choked it

and pulled it once

and it fired right up!



They were the arms

of Elvis choking. I

fought them hard; I

could not cede.



„There is no Devil!‰

I choked it out,

„And I‚m in the arms

of Elvis, too!‰

From Chickee Chickston:



I'm choking right now

but I don't care!

I'm gonna sell this car



Sir, ack argh spew,

herk, herk, herk,

how do you like the nice leather interior?



(Note to self: no phlegm)

it's fast too!

gasp



black

then voices

then bright light

hospital!

Did I make the sale?



YES!

I'm the man!

From Stephen Vincent:



My mother choked

Constantly choked

Still chokes

Has not finally choked



That’s the truth

The sad terrible truth

I confess

I confess for her



Dinner - the father, the children

Macy's - the perfumes

David's - the blintzes

Nixon - the jowls

Nixon again - more jowls



Choke against the rage



She's done it - Reagan

She's doing it - Bush

O mother

Do it again

Harder, harder - Bush, Bush



Do it till you belch your guts out

Belch all over

Macys,

Davids,

Nixon

Reagan

Bush & again Bush



Whatever they did

And whoever did it before they did

Belch

Belch



When you break the sleeve of your body

Crack the air

Vowel by Holy Vowel

Sing unto us,

O Sing unto us

Around the table

Father, brother, brother and brother

We who were

Will not be - O Sing unto us -

Slender & bright as Crimson silk

Rolled into the sky

A ribbon under whatever God

Gentle unto that loving, endless night

Absolutely, forever may it be

The total song Unchoked.

While Choking

By Daniel Silliman



Gasp!

Gargle!

Hahhhhgg!



Must

have

Heimlich

maneuver



I choked and as I choked

it grew worse. “Water,” gasped.



that one damned bone

irony of strangulation

food cum death,

or is it qua?

food qua death

eating a good meal gone bad

that punk of a

grim reaper chicken

sickle of a bone in my throat.

From Stephanie Young:



On Choking: the use and abuse of pronouns in cases of self medication, a mystery strung together by commas, exactly the type of sentence that can cause a person to choke, a room with four walls, I choked on my latte, or choked with contempt, caught on her own words, being choked from behind, her own voice, all attempts to properly organize the father, "I saw how she touched you!", the line had a lot of static, your voice periodically sounds like a cell phone that has lost its connection, pieces of the email may break off, illegal jelly treats, "I am tiny!", choked up with emotion and stumbling over her own words, who is the misanthrope in the following sentence? My voice choked, and the words I could not speak to you quite choked my heart.

Keep on chokin'...



From Jack Kimball:



We were headed to Miami. Oh pure transcendence!

Oh Boston sings! Yo Chicago to the rear!

And all grew hushed. But in that Boston silence

NY singled, homered and changed everythin dear.



Quiet creatures gather from the Bronx,

unhurried forest out of New York, and nest;

and so now Miami must have their stealthiness

that was not born out of cunning or of funks,

but just from chocking. Chicago, first -- the roar

seemed tiny to Boston hearts. And where before

there barely stood a bat boy to take this in,



a wailing crowd hides within the deepest darkest Fens,

for Boston lost its entryway as beanpots trembled --

as NY builds for Marlins thus a sacrificial temple.

Yet More Chokepo



FIVE SECURITY ZONES

Aaron Kunin



point of a building's

shadow enters you

Ferdinand Lopez



(are you carrying

anything that will

set off the alarm)



at Tenway Junction

(the security

guard sees that you have



no destination)

through a cloud choking

the sky's mouth minus



(smashed into bloody

atoms) his face said

get back on the train

A choke poem from Kent Johnson [revised].



I was having dinner with Francis Picabia, Kurt Schwitters, and the Count of Lautreamont. Some other minor poets of the pre-war years were there. Lautreamont was dead, of course, and his boiled body was being served in thin slices stuffed into baguettes the shape of milkweed pods. Everything was going famously, Picabia was making Vvvvv sounds, holding the severed wheel of his crashed Belogna; Ball was flapping his papier-mache wings at top velocity; and Man Ray’s three girlfriends, with their pointed, penitent hoods, were drinking absinthe and whispering mysteriously near the lime tree. Then it happened that Breton gave his ten year old, bowl-cutted son, Aragon, a slice of the Count’s perfectly shaped derriere. The child swallowed and immediately commenced to gag and retch, his little hands going to his throat, like the hands of a shot head of state, and he turned violet throughout the whole area of his body. Nadja began to scream, and Breton began to shout, though not words, but primal commands. The sounds coming from the child were those of crows, or something else I cannot yet name. In this moment of crisis, I didn’t choke, nosiree, I did not: I sprinted over and performed the maneuver I had brought with me from the future, the Heimlich, as it is known, wrapping my arms around the little Stalinist brat and squeezing and lifting his rib cage with all my might in five rapid successions. It worked. There on the parquet floor, ejected and writhing, covered in a film of slime, was a baby shark. "How on earth did that get into him?" cried Lacan. "I don’t know, but I could give a shit," said Gertrude Stein. "Pass the butter."

Must have more choke poems! Send 'em if you got 'em! Write 'em if you don't!

More Chokepo



small parts

Alli Warren







appearances show



the mouth



floods repeatedly



chokes on



pronoun



in the study



red wax



in the head



err on the side



one will



still not



a cure

UNTOWARD

Eileen Tabios



She has not looked back for three years. For three years, she lived her life by skimming the thinnest surfaces of an ice-covered body of water -- what she did for ecstasy billowed the sails pulling her iceboat. She could twitch the rudder so easily to return to thicker ice or solid ground. But bliss is addictive, even as she feels her bones thinning from a lack of rest. She sensed that looking behind herself would present the painful image of white shards fragmenting black water. So she continues to knife towards the horizon as if the horizon could be a destination. Perhaps a point exists ahead where the ice gives way to warm water thickened by salt -- it doesn't make her less or more eager. "Our deepest sense of what is fair and generous gets tossed aside so quickly in favor of a powerfully racing heart."* Untoward, she has grown accustomed to breathing through her drowning.







----------------------------

* Quote is from "My Russian" by Deirdre McNamara (Ballantine, 1999)

Did You Mean to Search For: "I choked"?

Gary Sullivan



[for Tim Yu]



As I saw what had become of them

a horrified shudder fled through my skin

and I caught a gasp in my throat

I chocked on the gasp and as I chocked



it grew. When they gave me processed

stew I chocked just a little bit again I asked

Dude I just almost choked on whater

Sarah: water!! Lisa: hee Sarah: What's



worse i almost typed chocked Lisa: I chocked

on whater! Help! In other fine moments

of recent days I had the most awful tasting

cough syrup ever ... I think it was Bill's Ocean



the name escapes me now but I was glad to

see Bill! I chocked the wheels with beer cans

gagged a few times but he just laughed.

After what seemed like hours he finally came



I chocked on his cum as it shot into my mouth

"Please let me come" I chocked through tears.

I used to go to this little dinky porn theater

on Melrose and I gagged but continued to suck



Would it kill you to ignore those M&M's I ate

a couple days ago? Could you let those french fries

I chocked down yesturday just slide on by!?

Then, someone must have come and unplugged it



because I wasn't so happy anymore

I chocked it up to his being an ex-seminarian

standing there naked masturbating! I feel sick

every time I think about it.



At the time I chocked it up as an unimportant

forgettable drunken moment.

And then I chocked myself full of Apple n Peach

And then my stomach hurt. Hm, it's the meat



attacking me one last time! Yes, I think

that must be true because I chocked during dinner

too. Haha, yes, okay ... I chocked it all up

to being a new mother--all those new duties



nightly feedings diapers bottles laundry

I felt nervous and excited all at the same time.

"You look absolutely beautiful"

I chocked out as we sat down



"Take your time and order whatever you like

I love you girly. So, yah, the time when i

chocked on you hair very funny

for me ha ha ha i went blah morning evil



morning carnt think." "Megatron, new body,

stronger!" I chocked. Optimus patted my back.

"It's okay Son, Megatron isn't here." he said.

Suddenly my mouth became very dry I was



exhausted but I chocked that up to not

listening to an album. I mean purely

because of the album. I hope the songs

keep coming. Ah the Souls. Imagining



vampires in every corner I chocked

the door open with my short sword

and we carefully pulled each coffin out

before opening the lids ... nothing.

Four-by-Five Pronoun Choke

Chris Murray



Choked? You? Never on!

Say, no I had to.

Say, no sequin love

could ever be It--



shining this sequence

in that final big.

Nor. Displaced, stepped off

to another choke,



struck full of wonder

bread: break-through preserv-

atives, man. Just do

It like shoes: Us



It was, pair as They

say, We: some big They

show. If She, always

He He anyway.

The Choke Goes On



From Ben Friedlander:



AFTER E. E. CUMMINGS



"could've been should've been would

have been without a doubt but

only if that kerry kood've

kept his wits for one more out,"

emits the drunken sadeyed lout





And from Patrick Durgin:



I will not regret choking

but self-medicate instead.



She asked me to dance but I wouldn't

and answered in fact that I couldn't;

then I limped to the bar

with my head in the stars

and retrieved my false pride where I put it.

More Choke Poetics



Courtesy of K. Silem Mohammad. Keep 'em coming!



Bourgeois Family Christmas



In February 1985, my throat and mouth

muscles lost all coordination.

I could not swallow and began

choking on my own saliva.



Due to a sore throat I had been swallowing

too frequently over and over repeatedly

like a mentally retarded dog, and was

choking on my own saliva.



Time: 5:33 pm. I started feeling all sorts

of "bad weird." Is that a mood?

I felt as if though I was

choking on my own saliva.



Thank fortune, I had gone to the bathroom

before I left work. Rather than

wetting myself, I settled for

choking on my own saliva.



I had a seizure in the kitchen

of my mom’s house, passing out

watching my hand slap uncontrollably while

choking on my own saliva.



The huge brown spider jumped on me!

Then I woke up panicking. The rest of the day,

my right eye was twitching wildly and I was

choking on my own saliva.



They tell me I will get so I will choke

on my food and evidentially get so

I can’t swallow and will end up

choking on my own saliva.



Who knows? See below for even bigger,

better results. Oh sweet Mary,

mother of Jesus. I am

choking … on … my … own … saliva.



"You mean my c-cock and … and balls?"

He nodded. "W-what … h-happened?"

I could barely find my voice and felt myself

choking on my own saliva.



I said, "Hello, Sanzo? Can I get a ride home?"

Response. Nothing. —What? My breath came

in gasps. I swallowed, almost

choking on my own saliva.



Current Mood: annoyed.

(ANSWER da PHONE).

September 8th, 2003. 12:00 pm —> *cOugH

Yes. There was a lot of saliva.



Don’t hate the playa hate the game!

___________________

___________________

I’m choking on my own saliva



People will kill me for this, but I remembered

choking on my own saliva

when I discovered that some phrases

I couldn’t recognize at all as Japanese were



off in my world of gnomes that strip and breakdance HAMMER TIME…

cuz I had that hideous mouth holder thingy and he had to push on it a li’l

to reach my back teeth and I kept saying no, while

choking on my own saliva.



Eleven years ago, I smoked two packs

of menthol cigarettes a day. However

there are no answers for preventing

choking on my own saliva.

Choke Poetics



Now soliciting: "choke" poetry from all corners, from Oakland to Boston to Chicago to Minnesota and anywhere victory inexplicably slips away. Send it here and I'll post it. Look for the anthology at a concession stand near you in April.



Here's a contribution from Taylor Brady:



CHOKING IN OAKLAND (for Terence Long)



How do you not swing?

An almost perfect bond



unites the man with thousands

circling him. He joins them

watching him as on a screen



he watches life seep from



things watched. A watch



is not a clock. It holds

the wrist stiff, outside



the time in which a flick

or stroke would come in time.

The pigeon in the field knows

your eye is there. Doesn‚t care.

"I Choked"



I didn't do it. I choked back the tears

and didn't sleep a wink last night.

Definition found in 1: "I laughed so hard

I choked on my spit!" Bottom line: my

frou-frou bottled water, my fanatical

apathy ruined my life.

Other people lose jobs = I make money.

Holdsclaw: I think I shed a tear--

oops--I think I choked her,

a little dark joint winking

in the dark warm narcotic American night.

Here's a tale of the annual company barbeque:

you sucked, i choked on an undercooked

mailing list. That's

what lack of Baan work does to you.

It looks like a really trashy

hotel infested your new layout.

Sweet Jesus, I choked on a cookie!!

Well, when it came time to use the knowledge

that I thought had been firmly ingrained in my head,

on my first real day as a Dartmouth student,

ready to get ya jugglar vein slit/ your now dealin with

the scallop at the eat off.

I choked on a radish and the radish

had no name.

Cubs Elegy



You might want to add his sun-

shine side to the shuffle: don't



think you're so safe when you're

ground down & packed in.



Aloof, you're reaching the

point of prowess when,



as it would if you

hadn't been there, bat-



man hands wing out

like a wavefront. By



this prior arrangement we've

gathered sticks and stone-



pressed ice cream, horn-

rough beers and garlic



tones: but wait

for that gutter leaf to fall



from the year where someone

must have painted it.

I must have missed this, but The Skeptic and I were both citing Creeley in the discussion of linebreaks last week.

The latest poetry superstar...P-Gizzi?

No joy in Blogville tonight.



Well. Go Sox. The only thing more boring than mainstream poetry would be a Yankees-Marlins Series.

Oops. When I said that Nick's blogroll was "no longer his own," I did not mean to imply that the EPC had somehow seized editorial control of his links list--just that Nick's own blogroll was now appearing on the EPC--though I can totally see how what I said could be interpreted as meaning the former.



In fact, as Nick explains, the only change Nick made in the blogroll to post it up at the EPC was to alphabetize it; otherwise it is his and his alone.



My cryptic comment might also have been taken to mean that I think putting a blogroll up at the EPC is a bad idea, which I don't. I've always found the EPC to be an absolutely crucial resource, a kind of home base for many poets I'm interested in (and sometimes the only place on the web you'll ever find anything about a lot of them), and I think that poetry bloggers and readers have many points of connection--if not overlap--with the readers and writers served by the EPC. It makes sense to me that EPC users, many of whom may not be regular blog readers, ought to have some kind of gateway into the blogging poetry conversation that's going on.



It also seems to me that Nick is the perfect person to ask to do such a thing. He's been blogging as long as any of us; he has ties to a large community of writers, including bloggers and those associated with the EPC; and he's never allowed himself to get dragged into some of the squabbling that goes on among some of us at times. Most importantly, though, he's been a great supporter of other bloggers and an enthusiastic and comprehensive linker--generous and fair in this regard, more so than almost anyone. Putting together this list for the EPC just seems like an extension of what he's often done on his blog, which is highlight blogs, old and new, that he really enjoys and trying to help get them the audience they deserve.



That said...My comment may have betrayed some ambivalence about the idea of having an "EPC Blog List" at all, in part precisely because of the central role the EPC does play as an on-line poetry gateway. The EPC has a centrality and officialness, and I wonder if the EPC list will come to be seen as "definitive" by people, not so much by bloggers themselves but by non-bloggers who are just coming to the thing.



Part of this is just an inevitable effect of making any catalog or list. I always think, in this respect, of Ron Silliman's introduction to In the American Tree, where Silliman writes that "there are literally dozens of other poets and writers whose work has both influence and been influenced by the debate reflected in these pages" and that "a volume of absolutely comparable worth" could be constructed from their work--and then goes on to list eighty other writers who were not included. (This in an unusually generously proportioned anthology that already fills over 600 pages and includes some forty writers.) Yet ultimately a choice had to be made, leaving some in and some out for reasons that might in retrospect (or even at the time) seem pretty arbitrary.



The blogroll, at least, doesn't have this restriction, in that it can be infinitely expanded. And I do think that having one person's blogroll, formed by personal preference and experience, make up "the list" is far preferable to having the EPC folks officially arbitrate who's in and out; Nick's list is, I'd like to think, much more a report from the field than a carefully vetted table of contents, and will, I imagine, continue to grow.

Nick's blogroll is no longer his own; it's the "EPC Blog List", edited by Nick Piombino.

The rain's finally stopped--depriving me of the chance to try out that new raincoat I'd bought for a damp Bay Area winter, not a soggy Chicago fall--so it looks like Game 6 is a go.

Cassie in her own private deer head nation.

Enjoying the cut-ups and collages at Ironic Cinema, esp. the writing-through of Proust:



legend were my sorrows



my room the light arms

of my mother

Speaking of favorite montages--though I admit being the film rube I am I'm not even sure this really is one--I have the screenplay of Thirty-Two Short Films About Glenn Gould here and was flipping through it and remembering the scene where Gould goes into a truck stop to have breakfast (all bundled up & anonymous) and begins eavesdropping on people's conversations, first one strand (a busted flirtation) then another (two truckers swapping road stories), the camera cutting from one conversation to the next with increasing rapidity, then occasionally back to Gould who is sitting at his table, listening, conducting what has obviously become a fugue with the tips of his fingers, until his food arrives and he puts a whole lot of ketchup on it.

Jeffrey Jullich's original query about line breaks (to which I was responding earlier this week) is posted over at Silliman's Blog, along with Silliman's own, very interesting, reflections on the matter.

from Summi Kaipa...



Interlope #9 is out!



Interlope, the journal of Asian American poetics, has just released its 9th issue featuring work by:



Minal Hajratwala

Michelle Naka-Pierce

Jerrold Shiroma

Ken Tanemura

Hung Q. Tu

Tim Yu



Single issues are available for individuals at $5/each. Please send checks (payable to Summi Kaipa) to:



Interlope

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NEWS: Interlope #10, to be published this winter, will be the final issue of the magazine. It has been a rewarding endeavor, and I thank all of you who have supported it. If you know writers who might be a good fit for this last issue, please forward them to summikaipa@earthlink.net.

An email came in (no, don't worry, a very nice one) over the weekend from Jeffrey Jullich, asking, in the wake of the discussion of Linda Pastan over at lime tree, what "lines" and "meter" even mean these days--can it be measured by conventional scansion, is it some kind of intuitive going on your nerve, is it an anarchic free-verse-for-all, or--worse yet--a residue that we all just use like robots?



Good question, Jeffrey. This is probably going to get me violently flung out of grad school, but I must say I've never seen any point in conventional scansion--you know, the funny little accentual marks that some English teacher along the way probably put over a line of poetry, or that you might find in the first few enthusiastically marked-up pages of your used copy of the Norton Anthology of Poetry. Not that it doesn't have its uses, or that I haven't used such means to make a literary argument. But when I see any critic, no matter how brilliant, from Jakobson to Vendler, try to make an argument for the meaning of such rhythms, I admire the ingenuity, but am skeptical about how defensible such a conclusion really is. Usually what's happening is that said critic is simply explaining how the rhythm enhances the paraphrasable content of the text, thus demonstrating the poem's perfect unity; yet that critic might find him- or herself arguing that the same figure means precisely the opposite thing in another poem, given context. Nothing wrong with that; but it makes me wonder what scanning a poem really gets you.



As for my own writing--well, I've noticed that while I rarely write in conventional meter, the rhythms of my lines are extremely regular, sometimes (to me, at least) sickeningly so. I essentially seem to have two modes--a more discursive/expansive one, with long lines, and in this case my lines always seem to have precisely four stresses per line, though the number of syllables is totally elastic. In my more minimalist mode, it's generally two stresses per line, which usually translates for me to two or three strongly stressed words per line.



What gives? Well, these stress patterns seem to me (at least) to give the language a certain charge that I need to recognize soomething as poetic language. Hopelessly retrograde, I know, but there it is.



As for line breaks, they seem to be more radical for me in my shorter poems, where I often like to break phrases in the middle--a lot of heavy enjambment. For me, I guess, the king of the linebreak is still Creeley--the first time I saw "a" or "the" dangling at the end of one of his lines it blew my mind. The use of the linebreak against syntax is its major function for me, at least in these poems; it generates the tension that forces attention.



A couple years ago I was in a workshop where we were supposed to write a letter (fan mail, basically) to a writer (living or dead) we admired. I picked Creeley, and looking back at the thing it was mostly focused on Creeley's lines, so I'm going to paste it in here. I've toyed with the idea of actually sending the letter but have never really got up the guts.



---



Dear Robert Creeley,



Hearing you read for the first time—the sense of your voice, a new sense of how the movement of your lines mapped that voice precisely, the line breaks your actual hesitations, stutters, doubts. Your speech-rhythms naturalized what on the page seemed so fragmented, language exposing its own seams. The look of your poems was, then, deeply personal, grounded in your body and breath, form merely the extension of content.



And yet I think also of what you said of Williams—how you were surprised when you heard him read, reading right through his line breaks, when you had thought of them as full stops, the line pulled up sharply at its end. Your Williams was the Williams you saw, not heard, and you took his radical breaking of the line, the sentence, and the phrase as a model for your own even more severe practice.



When I look at your work what I see is speech, but speech struggling to birth itself out of the uncompromisingly objective materials of language. Your poems are full of "I," but so often I appears at the end of a line, the phrase that would give it content broken:



John, I

sd



Locate I

love you



Splitting these atomic phrases releases a kind of syntactic energy; the incomplete I leans forward over the line’s edge. It’s this kind of energy I have tried to harness in my own writing—an energy that can be produced by the simplest phrase left incomplete or dangling. And these are more than games. Language itself is your drama. Your poems make profoundly moving, and human, the exploration and relation of nouns, prepositions, even numbers.



An individual line can seem reduced to the point of nonsense. Yet somehow its compression and movement is lyric, in part because you find the burden of the lyric past in every particle of language. It risks banality, for not every reader will agree to grant each word this weight. Perhaps the best work is circular, turning obsessively back on the same words again and again until their histories are revealed—basic, embodied, utterly new.